Liverpool hotel news: smart new Accor opening now plus UK’s first IHG Vignette on the way

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• Gavin says:

  23 Apr23 April 04:08

  Vignette collection Sindhorn Midtown in Bangkok is a good hotel, if a little bland, and is convenient for public transport. It’s priced in a similar bracket to Holiday Inn Sukhumvit but is much much better! Got good value paying with points and and upgraded from a basic room to a suite as IHG Diamond.

• BC8 says:

  23 Apr23 April 06:46

  Why would they name a hotel brand after a Swiss motorway tax?

  • AirMax says:

    23 Apr23 April 10:11

    I guess they want to pave the way to adding a 5% charge like 4 seasons

  • johnny_c-l says:

    23 Apr23 April 20:10

    Thank you, I knew the name rang a bell from somewhere!

• Alex Sm says:

  23 Apr23 April 07:17

  Poor planning! They are just missing the Eurovision by one week when the city will be packed with guests from all over the world and the hotel space is in high demand

  • Rich says:

    23 Apr23 April 07:38

    They clearly want a soft launch – judging that that approach will pay off in the long run v opening during the frenzy.

    • Ken says:

      23 Apr23 April 08:19

      Soft opening? Sure

      It was due to open earlier but they have run out of time.

      • TGLoyalty says:

        23 Apr23 April 08:47

        It may even have a soft open but only for a few high paying corporates etc rather than in general sale

  • Rob says:

    23 Apr23 April 08:54

    What you plan for and what actually happens with big builds are two different things.

    • DaveJ says:

      23 Apr23 April 13:08

      Well that’s just bad planning isn’t it then?

      If something goes “wrong” every time then maybe that should erm you know be built into your plans

  • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

    23 Apr23 April 11:44

    I was thinking that as well but then I also thought it could have already been block booked months ago by some of the delegations / media / EBU and that could be their soft opening

• Ken says:

  23 Apr23 April 08:37

  It’s a great building.

  However, £450 for basic double at the Municipal on a random Saturday night in September.

  Even with ‘football season rates’, that looks optimistic.

  The Halyard will perfectly situated for Concert Square – not exactly hipsterville.

  • TGLoyalty says:

    23 Apr23 April 08:49

    Never trust early rates before a hotel even opens. They’re pretty much set at a level to make people aware but not actually book unless they really like it or low occupancy

    Things always change a few weeks after opening.

  • Red Flyer says:

    23 Apr23 April 09:24

    The hipsters will head to lower Duke St and Baltic Triangle and not the carnage that is Saturday night in Concert Square.

• NorthernLass says:

  23 Apr23 April 09:11

  Liverpool is a lovely city which has much more to see and do than Manchester (though as a Mancunian by origin I am committing heresy by saying such a thing!) We visit a couple of times a year for museums, exhibitions and theatre. The area around the docks has benefitted from a lot of regeneration and is a really pleasant place to spend time.
  Hotel prices at weekends have been astronomical since the pandemic, though mid-week there are real bargains to be had. I’ll keep an eye out for the new Vignette property.

  • AirMax says:

    23 Apr23 April 10:13

    astronomical rates = points redeeming opportunities.

    Any tips on good value redemptions there ?

    • Lady London says:

      23 Apr23 April 11:18

      Accor points value on spend is always strictly based on the cash price…so no nice points opportunities unless you can find a machine to make Accor points without staying much.

      That being said, ahem some of Rob’s recent articles here on headforpoints were about new earning partnerships opened by Accor. So if you fly a lot or hire cars a lot it’s recently become a better idea than Accor’s largely miserable earning rates for actually staying in their hotels.

      However Rob’s also recently become a fan of Accor events aa excellent value for points in the past couple of years including in London. These have seemed much better value than the Hilton or Marriott similar offers.

      • Rob says:

        23 Apr23 April 13:20

        Harry Styles tickets currently up for auction on the Accor site. Was at 2,000 points on Friday, not checked since.

  • RussellH says:

    23 Apr23 April 10:17

    Although I visited Liverpool much less frequently than I did Manchester when we lived in the far north of England, I think that overall I would agree.
    My first ever visit to Liverpool would have been about 16 years ago, an invitation to tour operators to visit the German Navy’s largest warship (named Frankfurt), which was on a courtesy visit. The waterfront was a real eye-opener.
    And before Starwood was taken over by Marriott, the Aloft in Liverpool (the former Royal Insurance building) had to be one of the best points deals in the whole UK.

  • Lady London says:

    23 Apr23 April 11:12

    I love Northern England architecture and this looks really nice.

  • Ian says:

    23 Apr23 April 11:13

    I too as a Mancunian by birth have to admit through gritted teeth that Liverpool city centre is far and away a better place than Manchester these days. I was in Manchester city centre recently and it really has become a grim place.

    • No longer Entitled says:

      23 Apr23 April 11:34

      As a Scouser I would have to concur with my Mancunian friends, Liverpool is far superior at this point in time. There is a lot of building going on in Manchester, so perhaps a work in progress, but it I find it to be very disparate with no real soul. It does feel, as Ian says, a bit grim.

      As for Liverpool, better architecture, better shopping, better arts, better culture and better people. Okay, maybe the last one is pushing it a bit, but it does have the advantage post regeneration of being a very walkable city. It’s great for a weekend break and I’d recommend the Hilton as a good location.

      • DaveJ says:

        23 Apr23 April 13:09

        Much better people in Manchester though

        • tony says:

          23 Apr23 April 18:36

          The folk of Manchester are well balanced – chips on both shoulders….

          Anyway, I got what I would consider an outsized redemption at the Hilton in Liverpool on a football weekend but that was before COVID. Prices were eye popping. Also whilst the INNSIDE is far from flash, I got a very good discount with my AMEX Plat status gig there.

• FrenchLondoner says:

  23 Apr23 April 10:06

  Do we have more information now on IHG elite and ambassador benefits at Vignette?
  In particular does Diamond give free breakfast like other brands and are there additional benefits for ambassadors?

  • TGLoyalty says:

    23 Apr23 April 11:35

    Just because it’s not an IC doesn’t mean Amb means nothing

    For example it does at six senses hotels where you get some benefits non ambs dont

    and other brands can see you’re an Amb.

    • BA Flyer IHG Stayer says:

      23 Apr23 April 11:45

      Doesn’t get you AMB benefits though!

      • LittleNick says:

        23 Apr23 April 12:00

        They really need to sort out the ambassador program and how this ties in with other IHG brands. Perhaps they could have a two tier ambassador program with an additional fee for it applying at the other luxury brands say Regent, Kimpton and Six senses etc

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