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£1,408 to Auckland in Qatar Airways business plus other great 241 deals

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I recently covered the new Finnair sale to Asia.  There are two other sales going on at the moment which I have decided to pull together in one article.  The key thing that links all three is that, as oneworld member airlines, you will earn British Airways tier points and Avios when you book any of these services.

Exactly how many tier points can be worked out if you search on a leg by leg basis at the BA tier point calculator page.

New Qatar Airways deals

Qatar Airways has followed up its huge ‘Travel Festival’ sale in January with a run of impressive ‘2 for the price of 1’ fares in Business Class.

As usual, the best deals are to be had outside the UK.

The highlight appears to be Copenhagen to Auckland for DKK 12,289 which is £1,406.  Other Copenhagen deals include Cape Town (£1,327) and Singapore (£1,032).

If you have a particular destination in mind, the following Qatar country-specific pages list the best fares from the countries which seem to have the cheapest deals (Scandinavia and Eastern Europe, basically):

Copenhagen prices

Oslo prices

Stockholm prices

Helsinki prices

Sofia prices (€989 to Singapore)

Bucharest prices (see note below re tier points)

Belgrade prices (€722 to Dubai)

UK prices (for comparison)

The best thing to do is to look at each of these pages and compare the price for your chosen destination.  Remember to factor in the aircraft type used and the cost of connecting to your flight, including any hotel costs.

You must book by 15th February 2017 for travel before 10th – 15th December 2017 depending on origin.  Other black out dates apply and vary by destination.  You must travel in a group of 2, 4, 6 or 8 to get these prices.

For Asian destinations, you will earn 560 tier points – 140 x 4 – for a return flight, as long as each individual flight is over 2,000 miles.  Auckland would be 600 tier points – Doha to Auckland is a whopping 17 hours!

The one exception is Bucharest.  ba.com shows Bucharest to Doha as earning just 40 tier points each way in Business Class – see the calculator here – so avoid that route if tier points are important.

As ever with Qatar, you should keep an eye on the aircraft.  The most modern seats are on the Boeing 787, Airbus A350 and Airbus A380 fleet.  I think that the full A330 fleet has been refitted now too.  The newer planes have a 1-2-1 herringbone layout where passengers faces away from each other.  

The Boeing 777 aircraft are fully flat but have a different 2 x 2 x 2 layout, albeit that a replacement for this will be announced at ITB Berlin in March (we’ll be there to check it out).  Qatar also uses short-haul planes on some European routes but these are configured with ‘proper’ business class seats.

Here are my Qatar Airways seat and lounge reviews – you will see that I am very positive about them:

Remember that bookings under this deal must be made by midnight local time on Wednesday 15th February.

Qatar A350

New Malaysia Airlines deals

You should also check out the current Malaysia Airlines deals as these offer a good alternative if you want to depart from London.

For three months, Malaysia Airlines was offering an astonishing deal to Sydney or Melbourne – £1,500 return in Business Class, flying from Heathrow.

That deal has now gone.  However, the airline has extended its Asian deals to the end of February.

You need to book on Expedia, where you can pick up some Nectar points as well for your trouble.  These prices are NOT available from Malaysia directly.

You need to search for London to Bangkok, Phuket, Bali etc in Business Class.  You need to search for ‘flight & hotel’ and then select ‘I only want a hotel for part of my stay’.  Assuming that you don’t want to book your hotel for the trip via Expedia, select one night only.

On the next page of the booking process you are shown a list of hotels.  These are NOT sorted by price by default, so re-order them.  The cheapest will be a hostel but that is fine as you won’t be staying there.

Bangkok, Phuket and Bali are available for around £1,100 – £1,200 return.  Other destinations may be available if you search.  These are excellent prices for trips starting in London.  For an extra £1,000 return you can upgrade to First Class.

Between London and Kuala Lumpur you will get an A380, with an A330 onwards on most routes.  The A330 business class seat is the latest version and has some very attractive solo window seats as the seating plan on this page of the Malaysia Airlines website shows.


How to earn Avios from UK credit cards

How to earn Avios from UK credit cards (April 2024)

As a reminder, there are various ways of earning Avios points from UK credit cards.  Many cards also have generous sign-up bonuses!

In February 2022, Barclaycard launched two exciting new Barclaycard Avios Mastercard cards with a bonus of up to 25,000 Avios. You can apply here.

You qualify for the bonus on these cards even if you have a British Airways American Express card:

Barclaycard Avios Plus card

Barclaycard Avios Plus Mastercard

Get 25,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £10,000 Read our full review

Barclaycard Avios card

Barclaycard Avios Mastercard

5,000 Avios for signing up and an upgrade voucher at £20,000 Read our full review

There are two official British Airways American Express cards with attractive sign-up bonuses:

British Airways American Express Premium Plus

25,000 Avios and the famous annual 2-4-1 voucher Read our full review

British Airways American Express

5,000 Avios for signing up and an Economy 2-4-1 voucher for spending £15,000 Read our full review

You can also get generous sign-up bonuses by applying for American Express cards which earn Membership Rewards points. These points convert at 1:1 into Avios.

American Express Preferred Rewards Gold

Your best beginner’s card – 20,000 points, FREE for a year & four airport lounge passes Read our full review

The Platinum Card from American Express

40,000 bonus points and a huge range of valuable benefits – for a fee Read our full review

Run your own business?

We recommend Capital on Tap for limited companies. You earn 1 Avios per £1 which is impressive for a Visa card, along with a sign-up bonus worth 10,500 Avios.

Capital on Tap Business Rewards Visa

Huge 30,000 points bonus until 12th May 2024 Read our full review

You should also consider the British Airways Accelerating Business credit card. This is open to sole traders as well as limited companies and has a 30,000 Avios sign-up bonus.

British Airways Accelerating Business American Express

30,000 Avios sign-up bonus – plus annual bonuses of up to 30,000 Avios Read our full review

There are also generous bonuses on the two American Express Business cards, with the points converting at 1:1 into Avios. These cards are open to sole traders as well as limited companies.

American Express Business Platinum

40,000 points sign-up bonus and an annual £200 Amex Travel credit Read our full review

American Express Business Gold

20,000 points sign-up bonus and FREE for a year Read our full review

Click here to read our detailed summary of all UK credit cards which earn Avios. This includes both personal and small business cards.

Comments (70)

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  • Adam says:

    Do the Malaysia flights get you BA tier points as well?

    • Polly says:

      Yes you do Adam, as its one world, guess you get 600 to AKL…use the BA calculator as rob suggests…

  • Adam says:

    Is there a fly by date for the Malaysia ones. December doesn’t appear to have any flights coming up.

  • SB says:

    Qatar also have a code PCFEB17 that is valid 9-17th Feb if a QMiles member, under My Offers once logged in, for up to 15% off. No idea if it works ex Europe but worth a try.

  • Chris says:

    Great QR fare CPH – Auckland but sadly there appears little left in NOV & DEC that doesn’t involve spending 10-22 hours in DOHA.

    • Paul says:

      Great fares but the. Blackout dates in August and early September make them unusable for me. The same thing happened in the January sale and I wonder how much of an impact this has had. I bought Cathay seats late last year which had a small penalty to cancel and so glad I did. Noting from any other airline has come close to that fare which allowed August travel.

      • Rob says:

        22 hours in Doha sounds fine to me. 10 hours is more painful.

      • C77 says:

        Blackout dates for QR come into effect for the last half of August and into September. I suspect this is due to the Eid celebrations which is a busy time to be travelling and nothing to do with school holiday / bank holiday. You can still avail yourself upto 15AUG in most cases.

    • Paul says:

      There are worse places!

      • Genghis says:

        Hell?

        • TGLoyalty says:

          22 hours is fine if you get a free VISA or even pay the $20. Nice city to go out see a few sights and enjoy a meal/drink before your flight.

          • Barry cutters says:

            Doha? I mean I guess if you saved a lot of money on a flight and you were forced to spend a day there . Or even a couple of you just wanted to sun bathe and swim in a pool. But apart from that you surely wouldn’t choose to go to Doha for any other reason than business or visiting a friend

    • John says:

      If 8 hours is the shortest possible connection, QR will pay for your visa and hotel.

      If your connection is over 5 hours, you may be eligible for a free Qatar transit visa that will let you get out of the airport, otherwise it’s 100 riyals = US$27.47 (so probably = £27 in November) for a visa on arrival.

      You must be on a single QR ticket, and this is not valid when coming from or going to other Middle East countries, and you can only use the free visa in one direction

      What remains to be seen is whether you can get the QR STPC (stopover paid by carrier) in one direction and the free transit visa in the other direction.

      • Alex W says:

        I’ve got a 7 hour transit in Doha – how do I get the VISA?

      • Kathryn says:

        I’ve got layovers in Doha on my trip to Auckland in March / April and have the STPC booked both ways.

  • ee says:

    I don’t have capability to search matrix at the moment but for Auckland mixed departure and return airports priced out cheaper in the Travel Festival. Out from Oslo (B787) return to Stockholm (B787) with 2 hour layovers each way was roughly £1330/each for travel April/May. Glad to see the flights have actually started now. Someone has linked to a very detailed TR in the flyertalk qatar forum.

    • John says:

      Matrix seems to not very reliable when it comes to QR availability

      It is showing as basically every day in November available and we spent ages choosing between all the options to get the perfect schedule, without checking on other travel agents or QR itself.

      It turns out that basically none of our Matrix itineraries were actually available to book

      Unfortunately searching on the QR website is a pain but it seems the best way to display all the options

      • will says:

        Tried https://bookwithmatrix.com ?

        I’ve had a lot of success with that recently on exotic itineraries

      • ee says:

        Strange, we had no problems with using Matrix to find the only day which had cheap fares and reasonable connections in Doha. It used to be more tricky when R class fares weren’t loaded as Business Class, but no we saw no mismatches matrix vs Qatars site this time around.

  • Ross says:

    Do Qatar normally have a second travel festival sale later in the year (around sep)? I am hoping so for honeymoon booking!

    • Kip says:

      They did last year. Aug/Sep time iirc.

      • Rob says:

        It is usually less aggressive than January but, frankly, if you are flexible where you start from they always have some good deals going on.

  • Talay says:

    As seems usual with these Qatar deals, nothing for odd numbers of people, nothing from the UK and as offers are so heavily discounted, prices for those who do not “fit their window” are absurdly high – e.g. LHR-BKK £2.8k plus.

    Before we get out of Europe, can’t we use some EU legislation to stop them subsidising the EU flights and bring the ex LHR flights down in price ?

    I guess Mr Hislop doesn’t fly Qatar !

    • Rob says:

      You try filling 2 long haul planes a day out of Copenhagen. These are ‘market clearing’ prices.

      If BA upped its game you’d find that the Middle East 3 wouldn’t be able to easily fill 20 flights a day out of London, half on A380s, at full(er) price.

  • Anna says:

    OT – I am currently on the phone to a BA operative with a poor grasp of English who is insisting that my cancelled flight to Bremen only merits a refund and I have to write to customer services if I disagree! They takes weeks to respond to anything like this! Does anyone know how to speak to someone at BA with a basic concept of EU law on re-routing and also who the ombudsman is for underhanded airline behaviour?! Thanks in advance.

    • Barry cutters says:

      It’s called customer relations.

      • Anna says:

        Update – after some wrangling I was passed to a supervisor who conceded that a refund isn’t the only option and that they would fly me to Hamburg or Hannover via Heathrow (as predicted by another HFP reader). I pointed out again that EU law entitles me to be re-routed to Bremen but he wouldn’t budge so I guess I am stuck with the snail’s pace of Customer Relations. Any advice gratefully received!

        • Rob says:

          Unless you are flying in the next 14 days you have ZERO rights apart from a refund. BA is actually being more generous than necessary is sending you to Hamburg or Hannover.

          • Anna says:

            Someone on here the other day said we were entitled to be re-routed?

          • Anna says:

            This is from “Which” consumer guide:

            Flight cancellation

            If you flight is cancelled and either departed from an EU airport or you were on an EU airline and landed at an EU airport. You can choose either:

            Not to travel, and get a refund of your ticket cost if the delay lasts for five hours or more (but the flight is not cancelled).
            Or

            An alternative flight (airlines call this re-routing) to your destination.
            You can claim one of these:

            Regardless of how long before the flight you were told of the cancellation.
            Regardless of what it was that caused the cancellation.

            The last bit seems to suggest that the 14 day rule doesn’t apply here? I’m no expert though, so will happily stand corrected (and go to Hamburg!)

          • Rob says:

            BA knows the rules and the rebooking options were laid out in the document sent to travel agents, which is what I quoted. You can be re-routed on the same carrier but BA has zero obligation to buy you a ticket on another airline.

      • Lady London says:

        Nooooooooooooo !! Please try to find some other way…. Unless you’re very lucky, it will be more of the same.

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