Lufthansa’s Miles & More moves to revenue-based miles earning from today

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• Tom says:

  12 Mar12 March 05:56

  O/T..but since this is bits.. I suspect this piece on Amex reducing merchant costs (and the impact it might have) is of interest to this audience:

  https://www.ft.com/content/715d785e-23fc-11e8-ae48-60d3531b7d11

  • Thomas Howard says:

    12 Mar12 March 07:34

    I did start to think the only way for Amex to go in Europe is to match visa/MasterCard acceptance and make up their lower fee in volume. Doesn’t change the potential cash back/airmile earning potential much overall though, just means we might end up with one less card in our wallets.

• Roger says:

  12 Mar12 March 07:17

  Rob,

  Here is an article idea for you.
  Analysis on whether using SPG/BAPP to refer others (particularly If within family/OH etc.) makes any sense in case if there is a Platinum card involved (Max. 5 referral though)

  • Polly says:

    12 Mar12 March 07:23

    Makes no sense if a Plat holder in the family..as its 18k to the referrer regardless which card you are referred for. It may be the way forward for Amex to encourage people to hold on to their Plats for longer.

• Polly says:

  12 Mar12 March 07:19

  Tom..can’t open it..how low are they planning to drop the fee? That would be amazing. But then how will they continue to afford our nice referral and spend bonus ?

  • John says:

    12 Mar12 March 07:55

    It doesnt’ work for me, but the way to read the FT is just to paste every headline you want to read into google and click the link from google.

    (You may need to disable certain privacy extensions in your browser, or at least enable http referrers if you turned them off.)

• Samuel says:

  12 Mar12 March 07:51

  I tried collecting with Miles&More but the effort is too big for what you can get out of it: the miles expire, you earn little (I was flying only shorthaul and that earned flatrate miles) so I never got to something meaningful in terms of miles or status. Revenuebased, it seems completely impossible if you do not fly C or F. I hope BA keeps the old system.

  • czechoslovakia says:

    12 Mar12 March 08:52

    Well, the 3 EU biz returns I booked before midnight last night each earned 3750 M Miles (FTL). Had I done it this morning, after checking, LH site says only 1320 M Miles for the same booking. Problem is, P class has been “enhanced” the most, it seems. However, all is not lost. Will just have to book via United`s site instead in future….
    Unless you`re doing 35 segments a year and got a LH group Credit card, no fun to be had here.

• Steve J says:

  12 Mar12 March 08:23

  “Ba’s upcoming Avios revamp” ????? Please explain.

  • Rob says:

    12 Mar12 March 08:44

    There is a proposal before the BA board this month, I believe, to go revenue based. This will impact both sides but it isn’t clear how the redeeming side will work. I am guessing it will be more AA style where you have a base Avios cost and a higher – but more widely available – price with better availability. Latter may not count for 241s or be available to other oneworld airlines.

    • BlueHorizonUK says:

      12 Mar12 March 12:59

      So I was right in my interpretation of what the presentation was and wasn’t actually about the merging of all the platforms into one.

• ankomonkey says:

  12 Mar12 March 08:28

  Completely OT (sorry): Going to Bangkok later this year and want to visit a floating market. Does anyone have any recommendations or ones to avoid? I hear the “best” one is essentially a big tourist scam with massively inflated prices if you want to get close to the market.

  • jtz says:

    12 Mar12 March 12:02

    Go early if you are going. Avoid being scammed by taxi drivers who will charge around 200THB to take you there but then you are forced to pay 200THB for the experience which is usually just souvenir sellers along the river.
    I’d also say watch out for the road signs the main markets are clearly labelled and make sure the driver is actually taking you there.

    I would recommend amphawa, but lots of research to get a trustworthy driver to take you there. One way to know is remember to see the authentic experience you will need to get there really early so if a driver tells you 9am or after that’s too late, he’s probably taking you somewhere where he can pocket a high commission

    • ankomonkey says:

      12 Mar12 March 17:35

      Thanks!

• Tom1 says:

  12 Mar12 March 08:28

  O/T Dubai hotel municipality fees – seems to be 10% – as well as VAT at 5% – how is the base clue calculated for redemptions?
  Is this like the Vegas (and spreading) resort fees?

  • Tom1 says:

    12 Mar12 March 08:29

    * clue = cost

  • Rob says:

    12 Mar12 March 08:42

    10% of nil is nil. All I ever pay on redemptions in Dubai is the Dhs 20 or so per day hotel tax.

    • Tom1 says:

      12 Mar12 March 09:27

      Thanks. That’s what I expected. But that’s not what’s appearing on my bill currently. Will challenge thanks.

• Hanna says:

  12 Mar12 March 08:32

  Considering the fact that shorthaul European flights on Star A. netted me 125 miles per sector, I don’t think new system can be worse for non status passenger. Airfare + YQ on my last cheap ticket from Heathrow was 66.4 GBP so around 74 euro x4 = 296 miles. Still nothing, but a bit better nothing.

  I guess, depending on earning benefits, we can still choose on which ticket numbers to book and get more miles.

  • Rob says:

    12 Mar12 March 08:40

    Was that £66.40 net or gross? Landing charges are £19 and APD is £16 (?!) so you are looking at roughly £30 x 4 which is 120 miles. Admittedly not much difference but you are not better off.

  • Pangolin says:

    12 Mar12 March 15:29

    You can definitely be worse off, especially when most of the charge is airport tax, like it is on some Polish connections. Fortunately, if you book through LOT rather than Lufty they still use the old mileage system.

    • Hanna says:

      13 Mar13 March 11:12

      That was LHR_WAW, gross £98, net as above. I checked receipt before posting.

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